Ideally nudism should be a family activity. And I know most facilities try to be family friendly.  But I see several problems with Nudist Camps allowing children on their grounds which I don't think can ever be properly addressed no matter how well meaning most of the members of the club are. One of the problems which I don't believe can be prevented is what if someone masturbates and the children see it?  While I hope that person would be immediately removed from the grounds and told in no uncertain terms that they are not welcomed there anymore (though I hear that sometimes that doesn't happen), the damage has already been done and no subsequent action by the club can undo that damage. What if a parent or guardian sexually abuses their children while on the grounds?  While I realize the club wouldn't have any legal obligation to report the person to the appropriate authorities, wouldn't there be a moral obligation to do so in order to save those children from further life destroying abuse?  But of course the only thing that would probably happen is that at the most that family would be removed from the camp.  The club wouldn't want to risk bad publicity and after all they would feel that it's not their problem so they wouldn't want to get involved. Ninety-Nine percent of nudists are decent people and wouldn't even think of doing anything that would harm children.  But it's the one percent that causes a grave problem for the children of the club. Ideally the nudist experience should be a positive and healthy experience for our youth just as it should be for all of us.  However we don't live in an ideal world.  I fear that although the over-whelming majority of people who go to nudist facilities do so just because they like to do innocent clothes-free activities, there is an unsavory element that is attracted to such places.  And if these people don't have a prior criminal record, I don't see what the members of the club can do to protect children from them.

Ninety-Nine percent of nudists are decent people and wouldn't even think of doing anything that would harm children.  But it's the one percent that causes a grave problem for the children of the club. Ideally the nudist experience should be a positive and healthy experience for our youth just as it should be for all of us.  However we don't live in an ideal world.  I fear that although the over-whelming majority of people who go to nudist facilities do so just because they like to do innocent clothes-free activities, there is an unsavory element that is attracted to such places.  And if these people don't have a prior criminal record, I don't see what the members of the club can do to protect children from them. I fully don't understand people's thinking when they think they should   remove children from the best influence for them in the world  in order to   save them.  Truly people can't possibly be that ignorant about nudism.   One can not in this world find a better non-sexual environment for   families, children or for that matter any human being than a nudist resort   and yet some one fears an undesirable might be attracted also!  Using   that type of logic, your local bank was almost robbed today.  Someone   without a prior record almost could have almost pulled a gun on a teller   and almost could have walked out of the bank with the money!  Good grief!   To live in unreasonable fear is something you need to have looked into.   At least learn how to fear real problems rather than trying to build up   imaginary scenarios to fear.  Typically, unsavory people are the ones who   tend to avoid nudist camps and recommend their victims do too!   They   don't wish to be found out!  A non-nudist child is a hundred times easier   target for a molester than a nudist child.

Nicky.....my hat is off to you because you have joined me in crossing the line into reality and   exposing the flaw of family nudism......there will be the cult nudist that will say it happens in the textile world .....and we all agree....no argument there.....and the 99 percent of the americans that agree also......say....yeah that is the reason we do not uncover our crotches.......it tends to eliminate the ones that are seeking to see naked crotches and naked crotches does turn on adults as well as children.......and these naked crotch seekers go to textile beaches and behave normally with no interest in sex.....for most people naked crotches means sex and that is a world wide held belief.....but the incestuous nudist family does draw a crowd and that makes the cash register ring....and encourages other children to participate in sex as those children .....and it would be naive to think that management ...staff....and residents are in some cases innocent of this behavior also.......AND dont you think judges and the general population is also aware of these facts.....the nudist camp child porn era educated everyone and the horse died...jonZeee

Ideally nudism should be a family activity. And I know most facilities try to be family friendly.  But I see several problems with Nudist Camps allowing children on their grounds which I don't think can ever be properly addressed no matter how well meaning most of the members of the club are. One of the problems which I don't believe can be prevented is what if someone masturbates and the children see it?  While I hope that person would be immediately removed from the grounds and told in no uncertain terms that they are not welcomed there anymore (though I hear that sometimes that doesn't happen), the damage has already been done and no subsequent action by the club can undo that damage.     I think children are more resilient than that.  What if a child *did* see an adult masturbate?  How is the chiled harmed, warped, or stunted? Children see many things that they don't understand or which they feel is disgusting.  How are they harmed?  If a parent merely explains that such acts in public are not nice - such as picking one's nose - how is the child permanently damaged .  In other cultures, adult sexuality is not so hidden from view, and the children manage to successfully reach adulthood without trauma or impairment and are obviously able to have families of their own.  If you feel that a child witnessing such a thing will harm a child, please explain how. ~Reggie~

Nicky Warren < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it wrote in message : Ideally nudism should be a family activity. And I know most facilities : try to be family friendly.  But I see several problems with Nudist : Camps allowing children on their grounds which I don't think can ever : be properly addressed no matter how well meaning most of the members : of the club are. : : One of the problems which I don't believe can be prevented is what if : someone masturbates and the children see it? ==================== I have never seen such an occurance in 19 years going to my club. If it WERE to happen, that person would be ridden out on a rail so fast your head would swim ====================== : While I hope that person : would be immediately removed from the grounds and told in no uncertain : terms that they are not welcomed there anymore (though I hear that : sometimes that doesn't happen), the damage has already been done and : no subsequent action by the club can undo that damage. ================== What damage are you talking about? ==================== : : What if a parent or guardian sexually abuses their children while on : the grounds? ==================== Se above. ===================== : While I realize the club wouldn't have any legal : obligation to report the person to the appropriate authorities, : wouldn't there be a moral obligation to do so in order to save those : children from further life destroying abuse? ================= You bet!  And our club has a policy to involve law infrocement if that happens. =========================== : But of course the only : thing that would probably happen is that at the most that family would : be removed from the camp.  The club wouldn't want to risk bad : publicity and after all they would feel that it's not their problem so : they wouldn't want to get involved. ================ You have been listening to jonzee too much. ======================= : : Ninety-Nine percent of nudists are decent people and wouldn't even : think of doing anything that would harm children.  But it's the one : percent that causes a grave problem for the children of the club. ================= The percentage is higher at any public park or beach. =================== : Ideally the nudist experience should be a positive and healthy : experience for our youth just as it should be for all of us.  However : we don't live in an ideal world.  I fear that although the : over-whelming majority of people who go to nudist facilities do so : just because they like to do innocent clothes-free activities, there : is an unsavory element that is attracted to such places.  And if these : people don't have a prior criminal record, I don't see what the : members of the club can do to protect children from them. ================== What is your point? ================